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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby zilch » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:20 am

Stoned Immaculate wrote:I'll never get this one. If he is outside of time, why would a day be like 1,000 years to us. Don't they say he sees the end and the beginning simultaneously? He doesn't have the capacity to "wait." Ray's an interesting guy.

Another example of the Bible not bothering its pretty head overmuch with logic. Just pile on the praise and don't worry how it fits together.
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby vms » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:02 pm

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“The Bible is simply outdated.”

While it is filled with ancient laws that God gave to the Hebrew nation, it tells tomorrow’s news before it happens. See Matthew 24, Luke 21, 1 Timothy 4, 2 Timothy 3 for some examples.

It also tells us how to get everlasting life, and warns of a coming Day of Judgment for all of humanity.

You had better take another look.

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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby BeamStalk » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:59 pm

Matthew 24 - Was written after the Temple had been destroyed it is not a prediction when you are writing after the fact. Plus a bunch of things that happen all the time throughout humanity, and some even before humans like earthquakes, is also not a prediction.

Luke 21 - Same passage from Matthew 24, again not a prediction when written after the fact. This is also where Jesus curses a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season.

1 Timothy 4:1-5 - Yes people will not believe you, that is not a prediction either.

2 Timothy 3:1-9 - Again saying things that are part of human nature is not a miracle style prediction of the future but a prediction based on the behavior of men and not impressive. So yes humanity will love money as long as money is being used for goods and services, yes there will always be people who are selfish and out for themselves, etc...
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby zilch » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:09 am

But beams- doesn't it say in the Bible itself that prophecy is fulfilled in the Bible? What more do you want?
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby vms » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:00 pm

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“I don’t hate God. I just don’t believe He exists.”

There is no greater contempt that you can have for other person than to, in their presence, deny that they exist. That's what you are doing.

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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby zilch » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:52 pm

God probably doesn't believe that Supergod exists behind him.
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby Stoned Immaculate » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:21 pm

Gotta love gunther's rendering of a guy up to no good. That guy just embodies the bad boy life with his skull and crossbones jacket.
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby BeamStalk » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:06 pm

zilch wrote:God probably doesn't believe that Supergod exists behind him.



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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby zilch » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:01 am

beams- yes, that's a classic. But my favorite theory nowadays is that not only are we a computer simulation, but the computer is an emulation, possibly run on Langton's Ant or Conway's Game of Life. And of course the emulation is an emulation. It's emulations all the way down. And up. And sideways.
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby vms » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:06 pm

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“Christians are mean-spirited and I reckon about as far away from what Jesus seemed to be about as you could get.”

Jesus spoke of sin, God’s perfect righteousness, and of the existence of Hell. He said the world would hate Him because He accused them of sin, and that they would hate Christians because they belonged to Him.

You are guilty of creating "another Jesus" (something the Bible calls “idolatry”).

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