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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby zilch » Thu May 18, 2017 1:57 pm

That's the final justification for anything on this worldview, isn't it? No matter what pain and suffering and injustice happens during our lives, God sorts it all out after we're dead, according to a scheme that justifies me selling DVDs.
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby vms » Fri May 19, 2017 1:04 pm

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“He who can look into the eyes of a crack addicted baby, a newborn with horrible birth defects, a newborn riddled with cancer, or a newborn who will probably die before it recognizes what life is, and say ‘It's God’s plan’ or ‘God works in mysterious ways,’ or just think that it's perfectly fine, is a truly disgusting person, and doesn't deserve to be a part of society.”

All human suffering and death are the result of the Genesis Fall. What we see on earth isn’t God’s perfect will. It is His permissive will. However, the day will come when God’s will, will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven. Don’t miss out on being part of the eternal kingdom, because it certainly is coming as Jesus said it would. You and I don’t deserve to be part of that kingdom, but God says we may.

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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby ajbjasus » Fri May 19, 2017 3:33 pm

God id pretty much the ultimate "jam tomorrow" guy, really.
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby vms » Sat May 20, 2017 1:28 pm

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“Why did God let the talking serpent into the garden of Eden knowing what he would do?”

No one can answer that but God. Make peace with Him and if you ask in humility, He may reveal it to you. In the meanwhile, don’t end up in Hell being punished for your many sins, just because this bothers you.

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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby Stoned Immaculate » Sat May 20, 2017 4:57 pm

vms wrote:https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort/photos/a.122900324397116.15609.110962898924192/1562589890428145/?type=3&theater
“Why did God let the talking serpent into the garden of Eden knowing what he would do?”

No one can answer that but God. Make peace with Him and if you ask in humility, He may reveal it to you. In the meanwhile, don’t end up in Hell being punished for your many sins, just because this bothers you.

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I could be wrong but hasn't ray taken a wack at answering this question in the past? This is pretty pathetic, but at least sort of an honest admission by his standards. There really is no good answer to this question, other than saying it's just a story and not a historically accurate event.
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby vms » Sun May 21, 2017 1:02 pm

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“Why did God not smite Lucifer for his betrayal when He so easily smote so many others for far lesser crimes?”

What you consider lesser crimes were apparently not.

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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby zilch » Sun May 21, 2017 1:29 pm

Stoned Immaculate wrote:There really is no good answer to this question, other than saying it's just a story and not a historically accurate event.

Either that, or it's a historically accurate event, and God is a real meanie.
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby vms » Mon May 22, 2017 1:02 pm

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“Bottom line -- when you declare you have faith in something - you are literally proclaiming you have no evidence, but choose to believe anyways."

I have faith in my wife, and it's based on the evidence of knowing her for years. She is impeccably trustworthy. It’s even more so when it comes to trusting God. Bottom line -- we have thousands of years of His faithfulness, laid out for us in the Scriptures.

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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby BeamStalk » Tue May 23, 2017 1:56 am

vms wrote:https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort/photos/a.122900324397116.15609.110962898924192/1563613756992425/?type=3
“Bottom line -- when you declare you have faith in something - you are literally proclaiming you have no evidence, but choose to believe anyways."

I have faith in my wife, and it's based on the evidence of knowing her for years. She is impeccably trustworthy. It’s even more so when it comes to trusting God. Bottom line -- we have thousands of years of His faithfulness, laid out for us in the Scriptures.

From: http://store.livingwaters.com/books/jaw ... teeth.html



Nice Equivocation fallacy there Ray:

faith
[fāTH]
NOUN
1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something:
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust · belief · confidence · conviction · optimism · [more]
2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
synonyms: religion · church · sect · denomination · [more]

The talker was referring to definition 2 and you used definition 1. - Equivocation ("to call by the same name") is an informal logical fallacy. It is the misleading use of a term with more than one meaning or sense (by glossing over which meaning is intended at a particular time). It generally occurs with polysemic words (words with multiple meanings).

Way to misrepresent this person's argument, some may even call that lying.
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Re: 2017 - Answering Questions

Postby vms » Tue May 23, 2017 1:02 pm

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“Why does God command that infants should be dashed upon the rocks”?

He doesn’t. The Babylonians, who conquered and enslaved Israel, were very cruel, and apparently they killed infants in such a way. The Psalmist is understandably seeking vengeance, and doesn’t even mention God when he says, “O daughter of Babylon, who are to be destroyed, happy the one who repays you as you have served us! Happy the one who takes and dashes your little ones against the rock!”

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