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Dan Savage - two different reports...

Postby shadowmouse » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:12 am

Dan Savage lectured to a group of high school journalism students as part of a national anti-bullying campaign. Some attendants took offense and left during Dan's direct opinions on biblical passages and "Christian" attitudes toward gay folks.

Compare these two 'net reports:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... cture.html

Anti-bullying speaker Dan Savage blasts Christian teens who walked out of lecture after he criticised 'bullsh*t in the Bible'

Nearly a dozen of high school journalists walked out of a lecture by Dan Savage, the prominent ant-bullying advocate that pioneered the 'It Gets Better' campaign.

His comments about the relationship between anti-gay bullying and the bible sparked a walkout of Christian teens at the National High School Journalist Conference in Seattle.

Mr Savage called the defectors 'pansy-assed' and would not back down from his comments.
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Strike: High School students walked on a lecture by Dan Savage when he began to discuss the 'bullsh*t in the bible about gay people'
'I thought this would be about anti-bullying,' Rick Tuttle, the journalism adviser for Sutter Union High School in California, told Fox News.
'It turned into a pointed attack on Christian beliefs.'

Mr Savage's keynote address was presented in a large lecture hall for thousands of people.
A video of the lecture shows students beginning to walk out after Mr Savage started talking about the 'bullsh*t in the bible about gay people.'

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'People often say that they can’t help with the anti-gay bullying acts because it says right there in Leviticus, it says right there in Timothy, it says right there in Romans, that being gay is wrong,' Mr Savage said.

'We can learn to ignore the bullsh*t in the Bible and what it says about gay people.'
He compared dogmatic acceptance of anti-gay teachings equivalent to adhering to verses about slavery and eating shellfish, two issues that have been reinterpreted in modern day.

Many people in the audience met his statements with applause, but some Christians did not appreciate Mr Savage's comparison and walked out.

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'It became hostile,' he said. 'It felt hostile as we were sitting in the audience – especially towards Christians who espouse beliefs that he was literally taking on.'

Mr Savage recognized that his ideas were not going over well with the audience and addressed their concerns head on.

'The bible guys in the hall can come back now because I'm done beating up the bible,' he said.

'It's funny, as someone who's on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the bible, how pansy-assed some people react when you push back.'

Mr Savage is renowned for his outspoken opinions on sexuality and anti-bullying.

Heckler: After some of the students left the lecture, Mr Savage called their actions 'pansy-assed'
In addition to creating the wildly successful and influential 'It Gets Better' campaign, he also writes a sex advice column 'Savage Love.'

'I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelings...but I have a right to defend myself,' he said.

The executive director of the National Scholastic Press Association that sponsored the conference also defended Mr Savage.

'We appreciate the level of thoughtfulness and deliberation regarding Dan Savage’s keynote address,' the NSPA wrote to Fox News.

'Some audience members who felt hurt by his words and tone decided to leave in the middle of his speech, and to this, we want to make our point very clear: While as a journalist it’s important to be able to listen to speech that offends you, these students and advisers had simply reached their tolerance level for what they were willing to hear.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1tOZMKEZa

http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/04/18/s ... an-savage/

Students Walk Out on Dan Savage
by Karla Dial
Editor’s note: This story contains graphic language.

A group of high school journalism students attending a conference called “Journalism on the Edge” in Seattle over the weekend felt they were pushed over the edge by syndicated sex advice columnist Dan Savage.

Savage, the creator of the two-year-old It Gets Better Project, which encourages teens struggling with same-sex attractions to embrace homosexuality, was invited to give a keynote address last Friday at the JEA/NSPA National High School Journalism Convention.

Students were expecting him to talk about bullying. But they also got an earful about birth control, sex, and Savage’s opinions on the Bible.

A 17-year-old from California who was attending with half a dozen other students from her high school yearbook staff, was one of several students to walk out in the middle of Savage’s speech.

“The first thing he told the audience was, ‘I hope you’re all using birth control!’ ” she recalled. Then “he said there are people using the Bible as an excuse for gay bullying, because it says in Leviticus and Romans that being gay is wrong. Right after that, he said we can ignore all the ‘B.S.’ in the Bible.

“I was thinking, ‘This is not going a good direction at all,’ Then he started going off about the Bible. He said somehow the Bible was pro-slavery. I’m really shy. I’m not really someone to, like, stir up anything. But all of a sudden I just blurted out, ‘That’s bull!’ ”

As she and several other students walked out of the auditorium, Savage noticed them leaving and called them “pansies.”

Though recordings of the keynote speech are unavailable, Savage has made similar comments in the past, which can be found on YouTube. Among them:

“Most people that you wind up arguing with about religion and homosexuality have not ever read the Bible without their, you know, moron glasses on.”

“If you believe it is the divinely inspired word of God, if you believe in the literal truth of the Bible, I challenge you to read the first five (expletive) pages. There are two creation myths in Genesis.”

“We ignore the (expletive) in the Bible about race, about slavery, and we’re going to have to get there for homosexuality.”

The student’s father is a public school teacher. Though he said Savage’s comments were inappropriate, he thinks the organizers of the conference are ultimately responsible.

“I’m well-versed in the rules of the game, the captive-audience ethic,” he said. “You have a bunch of kids. They’re required to go to school. They don’t have the option of walking out on you as a teacher, so you guard your speech.

“If Dan Savage was a teacher, they’d suspend him without pay for this behavior,” he added. “He didn’t take account of who his audience was. If he was doing this with a bunch of college journalism kids, that would be a different story — that’s more rough and tumble. How many of the kids who didn’t walk out felt backed into a corner? To me, that’s bullying behavior. It has all the symptoms, as far as I’m concerned.”
"Get smart and I'll fuck you over -- sayeth The Lord."
-- Frank Zappa, re: Christianity's preference for perpetuation of ignorance

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