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What will the Bible support?

Postby Whateverman » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:15 pm

I'm not well-read when it comes to scripture. However, this novice sees people claiming that their opinions on many different topics are supported by scripture - and thus, those opinions are held to be untouchable by logic/reason/disagreement.

AJ is a good example of this. He talks about economies and politics as if the Bible has predicted all of it. Question his understanding of these subjects, and he's guaranteed to perceive you as questioning the veracity of the Bible.

So, do you think it's possible to find scripture which supports almost any opinion? If so, wouldn't quoting scripture be the best way to combat these entrenched opinions?
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Re: What will the Bible support?

Postby BeamStalk » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:20 pm

Whateverman wrote:So, do you think it's possible to find scripture which supports almost any opinion?


If you mean by quote-mining and piecing things together then yes. Just throw out some subjects that you think couldn't be supported and I am sure someone here can find support for it in the Bible.
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Re: What will the Bible support?

Postby alphgeek » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:31 pm

Can anyone frame a scriptural argument in support of blasphemy or homosexuality? I'm racking my brain for more topics that would be scripturally untenable but I'm coming up short. Obviously genocide, incest, fratricide etc. are way too easy...

Edited to add: good topic, it really gives a sense of god's priorities.
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Re: What will the Bible support?

Postby BathTub » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:47 pm

I don't recall them offhand but there are meant to be some possibly gay relationships in the bible.
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Re: What will the Bible support?

Postby Raima » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:48 pm

BathTub wrote:I don't recall them offhand but there are meant to be some possibly gay relationships in the bible.



Sodom and Gomorrah were full of gays...and God judged them. You won't find anything in the
Bible in support of that life style.
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Re: What will the Bible support?

Postby StewartP » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:56 pm

And he judged their children and babies and dogs.
But he thought Lot and his family were worthy of saving. You know, the guy who offered his daughters for rape and then later got shit face drunk and let these same daughters fuck him.

So by all means let's continue to use the bible as our guide for what kind of relationships God thinks are OK
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Re: What will the Bible support?

Postby alphgeek » Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:03 pm

Raima wrote:
BathTub wrote:I don't recall them offhand but there are meant to be some possibly gay relationships in the bible.



Sodom and Gomorrah were full of gays...and God judged them. You won't find anything in the
Bible in support of that life style.


Admittedly my grasp on scripture is poor but there were two issues with Lot's experience in Sodom (or did he live in Gomorrah?)...homosexuality and rape right? And we know the sanction for rape is payment of 50 shekels to the father of the victim...so I presume that it was the homosexuality that was the issue, given Leviticus. But what of the forgiveness of sin through Christ? We all lie, Christian and unsaved atheist, and yet the Christian is forgiven the sin. Why not forgiveness for homosexuality?
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Re: What will the Bible support?

Postby BathTub » Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:22 pm

Ok since nobody else got the reference I did a quick google. I am not pretending this is an exhaustive search, just a quick look to show what I was referring to.

    Ruth and Naomi
    David and Jonathan
    Daniel and Ashpenaz

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bmar.htm
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Re: What will the Bible support?

Postby Chris » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:13 pm

Here try this for a site that rips the biblical arguments against homosexualisty apart. It's even written by a christian.
http://www.ambs.edu/LJohns/Homosexuality.htm
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Re: What will the Bible support?

Postby Raima » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:25 pm

alphgeek wrote:
...But what of the forgiveness of sin through Christ? We all lie, Christian and unsaved atheist, and yet the Christian is forgiven the sin. Why not forgiveness for homosexuality?



Homosexuality is a forgivable sin, to the repentant, as are all sins.
A homosexual who has professed Christ, would not desire to remain in that relationship. I'm not saying there are no
homosexual Christians, but if truly saved, they would be miserable in a lifestyle that God calls sin. They should want to
repent. Of course, that would be true of any Christian living a life that is not God-honoring.
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